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NCO Financial Systems
507 Prudential Road
Horsham
Pennsylvania
19044-2308
215-441-3000
215-441-3923
866-287-2543
Cases Against NCO Financial Systems
Thomas v. NCO Financial Sys., Inc.
2003 WL 22416169(E.D. Pa. Oct. 21, 2003). Debt collector provided the credit reporting agencies with information on debts past the statute of limitations.
Prince v. NCO Financial Servs., Inc.
346 F. Supp. 2d 744 (E.D. Pa. 2004). Debt collector attempted to collect debt before it was in default.
Davis v. NCO Portfolio Management, Inc.
2006 WL 290491 (S.D. Ohio Feb. 7, 2006). Consumer stated that debt collector did not have enough documentation to file a complaint and pursue a law suit. Court found that the defendant had a sufficient amount of evidence to move forward.
Foti v. NCO Fin. Sys., Inc.
F. Supp. 2d , 2006 WL779774 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 25, 2006). Debt collector repeatedly attempted to collect on the debt within the 30 day validation period. Debt collector made various threats pressuring the consumer to make immediate payment disregarding their right to dispute and request proof.
Allen v. NCO Fin. Servs., Inc.
2002 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 10513 (N.D. Ill. June 10, 2002). Defendant sent a second collection notice only a few days after the initial debt collection letter was sent out. This violated the terms of the 30 day period that the consumer has the right to dispute and request validation. Defendant was unable to provide a legitimate excuse for why this error occurred.
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The ONLY way to make this company stop harrassing people is to KEEP THEM ON THE LINE
When the operators decrease the number of calls they make, the company will loose money. MONEY TALKS.
ANSWER THE PHONE
WHEN THEY ASK FOR THE PERSON
SAY "ONE MOMENT PLEASE" AND SET THE PHONE DOWN THEN
WALK AWAY.
Keep their lines tied up, the less lines available, the less times the autodial can access phone lines to make outgoing calls. If they have to add more lines, it costs them more money.
MONEY TALKS
If you have keep your line open, then get their 800 number, and later, when you have some free time, call them, wait until an operatore comes on the phone and don't answer them. When they hang up-call right back and keep their lines tied up this way. It will cost them more money and they'll have to have more operators to answer calls.
MONEY TALKS!
If everyone started doing this, they would go out of business and perhaps the insensitive idiots who decide to work for them will get tired of all the harrassing phone calls made to them!
NCO is related to DCS, another company with lawsuits against them. Complain also in writing to the State & Fed Atty General.
Finally calling them back and calling back DOES work. Do keep their lines tied up. Don't talk to them ever, don't try to work things out with them. However, you have the right to go back to the original creditor and just send them $5 or $10 a month. So long as you send them a tiny bit a month (this is assuming that you are strapped like me)the original creditor will probably ignor you. Also, if you NEVER EVER send money to NCO, or if you stop any payment to NCO, their contract with who they are collecting for reverts back to the original creditor. Website: fair-debt-collection.com is also a good place to check out your rights.
___________________________
Your name/address-letterhead
Person/Company name DATE
Address Via Certified Mail Return Receipt
City, state, zip
Re: [reference their reference]
Dear [Company/person name]:
I am writing in response to your letter dated __________________, (copy enclosed for your reference) because I do not believe I owe this debt.
This is the first I've heard from you, or any other company on this matter therefore, in accordance with the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, Section 809(b): Validating Debts:
“(b) If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection (a) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector. "
I request that you provide me with the following information with 30 days of the date of this letter to you. Your correspondence should be sent to me at the above address, via certified mail return receipt, so that both parties have proof of delivery and receipt:
• (1) the amount of the debt;
• (2) the name of the creditor to whom the debt is owed;
• (3) Provide a verification or copy of any judgment (if applicable);
• (4) Proof that you are licensed to collect debts in the State of ______________
If I do not receive the aforementioned items in the required timeframe, this matter shall be considered erroneous and of no further consequence. However, be advised that I am fully aware of my rights under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and the Fair Credit Reporting Act. For instance, I know that:
• because I have disputed this debt in writing within 30 days of receipt of your notice, you must obtain verification of the debt or a copy of the judgment against me and mail these items to me at your expense;
• you cannot add interest or fees except those allowed by the original contract or state law.
• you do not have to respond to this dispute but if you do, any attempt to collect this debt without validating it, violates the FDCPA;
Also be advised that I am keeping very accurate records of all correspondence from you and your company including recording all phone calls and I will not hesitate to report violations of the law to my State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission and the Better Business Bureau.
I have disputed this debt; therefore, until validated you know your information concerning this debt is inaccurate. Thus, if you have already reported this debt to any credit-reporting agency (CRA) or Credit Bureau (CB) then, you must immediately inform them of my dispute with this debt. Reporting information that you know to be inaccurate or failing to report information correctly violates the Fair Credit Reporting Act § 1681s-2. Should you pursue a judgment without validating this debt, I will inform the judge and request the case be dismissed based on your failure to comply with the FDCPA.
Furthermore, should I incur a reduction in my credit rating as the result of your erroneous reporting or should I directly incur additional expense, inconvenience, business disruption, character defamation or undue hardship or duress as the result of your actions, I will seek damages.
Finally, if you do not own this debt, I demand that you immediately send a copy of this dispute letter to the original creditor so they are also aware of my dispute with this debt.
[Sign letter]
[Include typed name below signature]
The continue to call. I would change our number, but when you're on a transplant waiting list, there are literally 100's of people that have this number and I'd have to go through a list and call them all with the new number. It's getting VERY agitating.
This past time they called, I decided to play a different way. They said, I need to speak with "Jane Doe.' I said, Ok. That's it. Okay. They said, "Just to verify, you're name is Jane Doe and the last four of your social security number are 5555?" Yes, they ACTUALLY GAVE ME SOMEONE'S LAST FOUR! They continued to tell me that this was a debt with Sears, the amount of the debt, when it occurred, EVERYTHING about this poor woman.
I've called my local TV station with this information, and first thing Monday, I WILL be calling Sears to let them know what this company is doing.
People, when they call, find out WHAT COMPANY they're calling for and call that company and report their bad habits and mannerisms. They'll start losing clients. Because I bet Sears doesn't want this on the news!!! And neither will other companies.
The scary part about this is that he would have taken payment for every debt line he had in front of him if I hadn't challenged him.
My credit record has been clean for years now and I have a good rating. I was able to buy a house and was happy to never recieve any collection calls again. This call infuriates me. I will fight them with all the legal rights I have. I would love to see crooked companies like this go under. There are plenty of people out there that actually HAVE bad debt. Go after THEM! Stay away from those of us that actually pay their bills!!
When I got home, I called the Bank and asked what this was about? I checked my accounts I do hold with them. They had records of investments, a CD, a credit card, and even another small account with about $400 that my grandmother willed to me and I completely forgot about.
The bank tells me they don't have any affiliation with NCO and they don't have any account's with that dollar amount under my social, name, address, etc.
The bank will not pursue them for fraud which I find suspicious.
I also get a letter that was forwarded from an old address by the post office also looking for this money on an account I never opened and have no knowledge of.
Considering what I am seeing here, I am not getting involved - I am writing a letter of dispute reporting the incident to the Comptroller of Currency and my Attorney General.
I called NCO to simply setup a payment arrangement and spoke with a Tim...i dont remember his last name but he was in charge of sprint collection accounts! He Immediatly spoke over me when i asked about setting up post dated checks for the following month and stated "if you do not make a payment now ill mark you as a refusal to pay and will not agree to any future payments" I stated i am willing to pay as long as i can set up payments using post dated checks!! He then said " have a nice day" then hung up. I called back confused and aggrevated and asked for Tim... i was then hung up on a second time. After waiting an hour i called back asked for Tim and finaly got him on the line after waiting 30min on hold. I asked for his manager so i could resolve this matter with someone else who would be willing to make a payment arrangement with me. Tim stated "my manager is to buisy to take phone calls if you have any issues thats what im here for" After only asking for his manager the entire 30min phone call i got hung up on a third time! So i called once again but instead of asking for Tim i asked for his manager Troy Trotter. I got connected immediatly to him and and spoke with him about the matter at hand. After explaining what happend and my attemp to pay this debt with a payment arrange he explained "i cannot setup any payment arrangements unless you pay something today and i cannot speak for what will happen to your account if you call later" After that i stated that i would call back and make payment arrangments when i had money at hand since i was unable to make a payment method of post dated checks using my active checking account! Why is it so hard to get a debt resolved even when you call and your willing to make an arrangement? It seems NCO is taking this debt collection way outta line and should at least be flexable with people calling and willing to resolve there debt!!
I am not sorry. I was able to make my payments till I lost my job. Now, I am just barley making ends meet. I did not cause this recession in America, but I am getting the brunt of it. Why don\'t we have a group who can help those who are having a hard time? It\'s not that I am running out on them. They are also the cause of my default. These companies are driving people insane. I am 60 and being treated worse than a child. Can anyone help? I don\'t know what to do.
thanks
Annoying calls 09-23-09
I recently started getting phone calls from this company. It's a recorded message not stating who it's for just a call back number. This old credit card was paid off earlier this year and they are now calling me ten months affter the fact. I have tried calling them many times but no one answers the phone. This is keeping me from getting a car loan.
NCO CAN GO TO HELL, DONT WORRY ABOUT WHEN MY DEBT WILL BE PAID, WORRY ABOUT GETTING A BETTER JOB.
how any human being can be a member of such organization?
aren't those guys just little bit ashamed of the bread that you are earning?
i would rather be hungry!!!
THIS IS A BOILER ROOM OF JERKS THAT WORK OFF COMMISSION SO DON'T LET THEM BLUFF YOU. TELL TO GO ---- THEMSELVES.
A company in FLA. On a 6 week pay out while I was doing work for them they cancelled 6 weeks of checks plus 5 weeks of work for the next pay. They cancelled all checks and they filed chapter 11. This job required 150 miles a day and to pay my Employees every week. So I had to file chapter 13. I thought that I could pull my life back and I did not put AMX on this filing but when I tried to make payments with AMX they turned it over to An attorney, so I made a payment plan with them,I paid them, and now I get a letter from NCO finance with the AMX letterhead. One address is in Texas and the other is Fla. so I checked out this site and found out that they are A-holes so I am not going to pay them, they will have take me to small claims court.
These people have been calling me for a debt for another person for 3 months.
I fianally answered the phone and told them I didn't know the person they wanted.
To no avail, they kept calling me, ( 3 time a day)
I told them I will turn them over to the Attony Gneral of Ct for HARRASSMENT.
I will if they call me back.
This outfit is a scumbag.
The collection agent that I first spoke with Dawn Jensing told me that the notice was to collect a debt and that the call would be monitored. I did not understand why I was paying the company (NCO Financial Systems Inc)if my policy was now current. She told me that if I did not pay that my name would be reported to the credit bureau. I told her that I would call Nationwide to make sure I owed the debt and that I would pay them. She was upset that I would not make the payment to NCO Financial Systems Inc. and blatantly called me 'ignorant' and hung up the phone.
A professional company should not tolerate this kind of behavior. I called the company back to get information on which I had just spoke (Dawn Jensing) with and a supervisor (Helder Ferrero) to consult.
I called Mr. Helder Ferrero on October 29, 2009 because he was not in at the time I spoke with Dawn Jensing. Mr. Ferrero was attitude was not very different from his employee. His main concern was that I pay the debt and was not interested in the business etiquette of his employee.
I always wondered where people go for jobs after they are fired from Burger King. Now I know.
I really do not care beacuase I am not in any trouble and it is funny to hear their threats. Go ahead! Report! It is not me any way. Do whatever you want. They get mad to hear this, because they want money. I am use to it by now and play with them all kind of jokes, they still looking for that person with my name but 20 years younger.
Good luck with that miserable kind of job! LOL!
If this continues on to the new year, I will be contacting my attorney and filing a lawsuit for harassment against NCO.
Diana & Brian
of Churchville, NY
Want to know why I quit a very good job in Europe to move back to the USA? It is because my mother is dying of terminal cancer (she is in pain & has phase 4 carcinoma with
After speaking with five different people, telling them they have the wrong person, they finally stopped calling, and haven't called for over a month.
Once they left a name and number, I kept calling the same person each time NCO called. I believe he was of Indian descent with an Anglo name. Regardless, after speaking with him multiple times, the calls have stopped.
The government won’t do anything for us so we need to take action.
only to receive a call today that I still owe them 1200.00 dollars, about 400 more than what they told me last week, because interest is accruing on a daily basis!!!Unbelievable crooks they are. I asked them to send me a detailed report. However, the guy on the phone was an idiot, never answered my questions, but continually asked that I start a rehabilitation program. Whatever that is. I told him that the people there (at NCO) are the scum of the earth and that if he did not send me an accurate statement of my balance, I would sue them.
In addition I think they have called me several times a day on a regular basis, but since I don't answer the phone anymore, they leave a recorded message, never identifying themselves. There is no reason for their calling me as I have been making payments regularly for several years...
So I am writing to their head quarters adn if I don't get any results, I will sue them for fraudulent practices.
I suppose that it is about a castro bed. I have a $4000,00 bed that I did not and do not want. To my surprise a saleman
came into my home four years ago
and browbeat me into accepting the bed he had with him. I did
not want a new electric bed. I had an electric bed that costed me $2,500 and it was paid for. I wanted a new mattress. I was searching via
internet. I did not ask anyone
to come to my house. If you could know me, you would know that I would never want to part with my old electric bed.
nothing was wrong with it. but
the mattress was a goner. I have had nothing but discomfort with this bed. I told the salesman that I wanted a soft mattress, he did not care or listen. I have
to take a sleeping pill in order to sleep on this mattress.
I suffer from Spinal Stenosis,
Lupus,ulcer, had a stroke,
chronic fatigue, narcolesy (
sleepy, still can not sleep)
from spinal stenosis, every
thing hurts, and I suffer from
many allergies.
I have not had time or the
strength to fight with these
people. I have been so sick
that I have not paid my taxes
for the past two years. I have
been in too much pain to even
look for the needed papers.
I am sure that I have already
paid more than $4,000 for that
bed that cause me more pain than it is worth. I paid $112
a month, but $60.00 of that is
taken because of my credit. I
did not need to have to pay
that. I did not need the bed.
My credit is bad because of my
illnesses. I do not feel up to
doing even what I want to do.
What we do know is, the calls are not for us because we do not have any debts that are defaulted. We do know that the person who had the phone before us had debts because some calls have asked for them. Of course, they never believe you when you tell them that person does not have the phone anymore. They should not be allowed to call any number unless they are 100% certain who they are calling. It should be illegal but somehow the legal system has been structured to allow this type of poor behavior.
5626 Frantz Rd
Dublin Ohio
I sent them a letter back disputing my debt as well, but they're still contacting me and when they called back again and I asked them why they hadn't responded to my letter and they didn't tell me anything and ignored my question; the lady just kept insisting that I should pay before it affected my credit score.
Of all the times they have called, they have constantly contradicted themselves. They once told me I could pay in payments, then the next time they called and I told them I was waiting for the contract to pay they said that it wasn't possible because they did not have payment plans. Not only that, but when I asked them to confirm the debt by phone, they said that they could not get in contact with the original creditor that they only knew what they had told me, and if I tried to contact the original creditor they would not tell me any information. Then a few days ago, they told me to contact the original creditor and ask them about my debt, they gave me some code to give to them. Why did they do that if they had told me before I could not get in contact with them?! And they did not even give me the phone number, I had to call the hospital and ask them.
I reported them to the FCC. I have tried to get them off my back for some time now, but they keep insisting and calling. I refuse to pay a debt that they can\'t even confirm.
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en#last
NEXT... If you do speak with them make sure YOU are recording the conversation. Ask for the original creditor info, account #, amount, etc. WHO sold the DEBT to them in other words.
WITHOUT getting RUDE do try and get THEM to be rude. Not hard to do. DO try get them make threats etc. Then take that information and file with the FTC, your local police, their police, their and your state attorney generals offices. If they have caused you distress and continue, then since you have proof of them disregarding the Fair Credit Collections Act you can turn right around and sue them for your distress.
They've been calling me again every day, twice a day for months. I immediately hang up on them, without even saying anything. This is a SCAM. I am well aware of what bills I have to pay off, and I sure as hell am not going to be screamed and yelled at who dares throw my personal information in my face. The WORST THING you can do is answer the phone! Once they know they have a live number, it will never stop. I am close to changing my home number because I'm sick of being woken up at the crack of dawn and getting these calls at 9:30 at night. This is NOT a place of business. It's a scam! Don't be sucked in! Do NOT talk to them, and for god sake, do NOT send them money! Deal with your debts directly with the company you owe!
This is a blatant violation of not only the FDCPA, but of any and all contract laws in the US.
They're in for a rude awakening tomorrow after I call them and play for them the recorded phone call I had with their agent.
They have been nothing but harassing to me on the phone. One guy said he would come find me and get the money. I asked to speak to a supervisor and she was as rude as the caller was.
one of the accounts they have been harassing me about I filed bankruptcy with 13 years ago imagine that.. When will the government step in and shut these people down.
I then called AT&T, and they confirmed for me that there was no outstanding balance, ever, and that they would investigate on their end and contact NCO (very little incentive for them to do so, however, since I no longer have my land line through them.) They even provided me with a confirmation number. I called NCO back, and provided them with this info in a voice mail (they're NEVER there to answer the phone, it seems.)
This morning, they called again. I called back, and was directed to another person, who read from the same script as the previous day. I mentioned, again, that I dispute this debt, and added that it would even be beyond the statute of limitations. The rep said that there was no statute of limitations on debt, at which point I informed he he was wrong and then hung up on him.
Not more than an hour later, NCO called again. This time, when I called back, I was on hold for 15 minutes. When a different person answered the phone, he, AGAIN, read from the same 'script'. He added that it was such a small amount that I would probably want to take care of it. I, AGAIN, informed him that I disputed this debt, and he got imperious with me, and asked if I was denying this on the recording. I replied that, no only was I denying this debt, but that he could (do something I can't type here), and again hung up.
These people are criminal. They will not get a penny from me.
I contacted a credit lawyer and sucsessfully sued NCO and won... Never heard from them, or anyone else about it.
I don't know what debt they are referring to for payment.
Please advise me.
The Rep politely apologized and said my number would be taken off of the call list. I wish someday the law will catch up with my ex-wife. We have been divorced for 10 years and it doesn't stop.
Guess who is getting calls from NCO? Me.
I got a recorded message when I answered saying that the call was from NCO and that I need to call them at [the number provided] and ask for Melanie Phifer.
I did that.
I was on hold for 5 minutes and finally I got a recording that say to leave a message.
After that I got ANOTHER recording that said "This mailbox is full".
WTF?
So... we all know that we're pissed about these calls... but now what?!?
This company has continued to call my daughter whom is 9 years old in order to collect monies on behalf of an organization. My daughter nor I have any liability with this company as the person from whom they are attempting to collect is entirely unknown to us: Britney Sampson (spelling is unknown to us).
This continued for the better part of a year (since approximately February of this year) with myself having made at least five phone calls to them indicating that neither my daughter nor I have any knowledge of the party whom they are trying to contact.
This organization MUST be stopped from harassing a child attending third grade and continuing to harass her into fourth grade. This is abhorrent, unconscionable, unethical, irresponsible, and unable to be validated in any way, shape, or form. At this point, my daughter is afraid of receiving phone calls, thinking she might become liable for the bills of this other person.
HOW DARE THEY!!!
They have not been rude. At least not at this time. Knowing the law seems to keep them nice. I've tried to talk with several of them to get the info they haven't sent. Their fax didn't work. They gave me an Email address. THAT didn't work.
Before you accuse me of working for them, I do not. I AM disabled. I am unable to hear on the phone, must use a TTY or Fax or Email.
Maybe I've just been lucky? But My experiences so far in the last short time -- they have not been unpleasant. Maybe my next encounter will be...but this isn't HSBC, which wouldn't stop no matter what. NCO (Transworld) Seems to be abiding by the laws at this time.
Think I'm lying? I'll sign and have an affidavit notarized if you doubt me.
When speaking to their representative, I constantly have to keep asking "what", can you repeat that, please may I talk to someone from North America at least...
IF I say "what", more then 2 times, I get hung up on and when I call back, and ask to speak to a supervisor, I get treated the same way as I did with the poorly trained representative.
I straight out told them that I couldn't WAIT to be caught up with my bill, so I can never speak to them again.
-Disgruntled Temporarily out of work Customer support Technician.
My wife and I have excellent credit and are not in arrears or owe on any deb that has outstanding payments.
The calls are automated and leave an 888 phone number.
I finally tried to call back
for details, and continually
get a busy signal.
When I did a search regarding this company, I am
shocked at the number of harassing complaints that I see.
I still have not been able to get through. I cannot even get any details.Sometimes
they even call more than once per day. This company needs to be put out of business.